typealice

08 Jan, 2009

Internet Trolls

Posted by: typealice In: Gillian

I understand that I basically set myself up for it by writing about Sundry and her CIO methods with her youngest son a while back, but I keep coming into contact with Internet Trolls anytime I write about anything less than sunshine and butterflies about being a parent. And sometimes even when I do write about how glorious my child is and how much I love being a mom. They always find me.

The other day, when I wrote about my frustration about Ash’s desire to nurse all day and all night long I got an email from a “D Hardy” about how I’m a hypocritical child abuser for quitting breastfeeding cold turkey. Except that I’m not- and she even quoted the paragraph where I said that I wasn’t- but somehow she misinterpreted what I was saying and tried desperately, several times via email to try to prove me wrong and tell me that I was abusing Ash (using my own definition of child abuse).

Sure, I was fed up. Sure, I fantasized for an hour or so about never nursing again, but never did I EVER actually consider weaning him, nor would I ever stop nursing cold turkey. Oh my god, my milk production has always been an issue, and nursing is a complete godsend that I appreciate every single day. I would never do that to him nor to myself. When I reached the point of hating nursing at that moment, I stopped, we got Ash up out of bed, played with him and then tried again later. He wasn’t left in his bed to cry, he wasn’t abandoned, he wasn’t ignored and left there to unnecessarily stress about being left by the person he cares most about. He played dinky cars with his dad. Problem solved. How it’s “on the same page” with CIO is beyond me. See, D Hardy? You have no case. Stop emailing me.

If you’re going to be an Internet Troll and try to comment on my blog entries or write me an email, have a strong case, don’t backtrack and really read what I write about because otherwise I’m going to call out all your mistakes and you’re just going to look stupid. Also: LET IT GO ALREADY. I stopped reading Sundry way back in October, the fight is over and done with. I have nothing left to say about it and you shouldn’t either.

21 Responses to "Internet Trolls"

1 | Jen

January 8th, 2009 at 10:08 am

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You know, some people need to get hobbies. Well, hobbies other than trolling someone on the internet.

2 | Joan

January 8th, 2009 at 11:55 am

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sounds like the troll needs to get a real life

3 | Ashley

January 8th, 2009 at 12:19 pm

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I can’t count the number of times I’ve thought THIS IS IT I AM DONE BREASTFEEDING ARG

But of course I am not, and would never do it like that either.

People are nutters.

4 | BusyBee

January 8th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

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Tell her to go hoop her f*in forehead. There are way worse things in this world to get your panties in a knot about. Seriously? It is one thing to argue a point, it is another thing to try to start an argument about nothing simply as ‘pay back’ for bullshite from months ago.

5 | angellee

January 8th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

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To think I spent my period of unemployment looking for a job. Harassing people on the internet would have been so much more productive.

6 | ProudMomofG

January 8th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

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1) I replied to an email you sent me…I left a comment on your blog that is open to the public…If you did not want to correspond with me then you should have deleted my comment and end of story.

2) How is reading a blog when the google reader tells me there is a new post and then commenting with my beliefs being a blog troll? Is that not what you do as well? Read others blog and then comment.

3) I never said you were a child abuser…I said that the logic you used against others could be turned around to define you as the same. I personally don’t know you and could not say if you are a child abuser or not but I am not the one who posted a blog calling another mother a child abuser.

4) An open blog warrents people to express themselves (again you have read and made comments on others blog) if you are not ok with someone pointing out flaws in your argument maybe you should set up a private blog.

7 | Allahkat

January 9th, 2009 at 4:38 am

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Or, you could find out that someone said something less than agreeable on their blog about your parenting skills and make your iam page private in retaliation. Oh wait, that’s what someone else did…

8 | typealice

January 9th, 2009 at 5:49 am

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ProudMomofG aka D Hardy:

I emailed after you accused me of actions on the same par as child abuse. You said: “Weaning a child cold turkey is harsh. He is showing you that he needs you and you are turning your back on him. I cannot sit here and support a mother whose actions are on the same level as child abuse!”

When I wrote and told you that you were an idiot and hadn’t read that I’m not ACTUALLY weaning you DID call me a child abuser! I quote:

“I read that. However, you had no problem slamming another mother who was sarcastically complaining about her children, going as far to call her a child abuser. Then you turn around and do the very same action. You set the standard of what a child abuser was (to you) and I am just hear to remind you that apparently you fit the definition. Congrats to you, hypocritical child abuser! “

9 | ProudMomofG

January 9th, 2009 at 7:15 am

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So, it is ok for YOU to say that you disagree with how another mother handles her children and relate her behavior to child abuse but is NOT ok for someone to say the same about you? My whole point (that I think you are missing) is that if you are going to slam another mother be prepared for others to slam you! If you are not ok with negative comments maybe you should stop making them about others.

10 | Amanda

January 9th, 2009 at 7:23 am

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How about – she has.

11 | typealice

January 9th, 2009 at 7:34 am

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I believe that neglect is child abuse. I didn’t neglect my child. I didn’t do anything to cause him stress. Therefore, no child abuse.

You are obviously reading my blog simply to try to find something to call me out on. This isn’t it. You’re really, really grasping at straws.

12 | Erica

January 9th, 2009 at 8:43 am

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Because thinking about weaning without actually doing it is TOTES NEGLECT!

13 | Asheo

January 9th, 2009 at 9:53 am

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seriously lol, I don’t see how you can think she’s a “child abuser” by “her standards”…what you’re saying makes no sense whatsoever.
I’m sure every mother goes through moments of wanted to stop breastfeeding, I did, but at nearl 15 months, we’re still going strong, as is Gillian and Ash at 16 months. No child abuse there.
Like Gillian, when my son just won’t sleep at night afer breastfeeding, if he cries when I put him to bed, he comes back out to play for another hour, then I try breastfeeding again.. it never fails, and there is no CIO… no child abuse.
I think you may need to have your eyes checked or something, you’re seeing things.

14 | Jenna

January 9th, 2009 at 10:02 am

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This is the most ridiculous argument I’ve ever heard.

Gillian – you should not have to defend yourself to anyone about BF, or weaning (whether you do or do not choose to), or anything else YOU decide to do with YOUR child. Just delete her emails.

ProudMomofG – Get over it. It’s not your kid. Why do you care whether Gillian is a hypocrite (in your eyes) or not? It’s an Internet blog. Get over it.

15 | Rachel from NJ

January 9th, 2009 at 1:52 pm

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I support PMofG.
There is something irksome in the way you criticize other mothers and their parenting skills. I love my 4 kids like nothing else on the planet. When you talk about Ash and the CIO controversy it really gets to me. Wait until you have 2 of them, and you’re only human with limits, they both have colds, they both need you, & all of you didn’t get a good night sleep etc… (something gives trust me)
The thing we need to realize that we all share in common is… we, as mothers/fathers/parents, LOVE our children, especially those that think/get educated about parenthood and learn to fix our faults (hence why I find myself reading about your experiences) When you start insulting a loving mother accusing them of child abuse it does makes you sound so lofty and arrogant. I too think you’re somewhat of a hypocrite.
Don’t tell me I don’t love my kids. Bottom line is, we cherish our children, we should learn to help one another. Parenting is so complex, let’s not bash each other.

16 | typealice

January 9th, 2009 at 2:38 pm

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Rachel from NJ:
I understand where you’re coming from. The issue here isn’t my previous mistakes- it’s that she’s coming to my blog and purposely trying to stir up trouble. I know I came off wrong when I wrote about my views on CIO (though my opinion has not changed), I came off as a totally judgemental bitch and I regret that.

I agree that we SHOULD be in it together, but you know as well as I do that we’re not.

I also understand that my life will DRASTICALLY change when/if I have two kids, but I do hope to keep crying at a minimum, and I will never, ever, ever practice CIO as a method of sleep training like so many mothers do out there.

I am not getting into this CIO discussion again. This post was about internet trolls, not going back to October to rehash the argument.

17 | busybee

January 9th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

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I like parades. They are fun to watch. LOL.
Life should be about laughing together and finding things that make us similar. Anyone who denies there are times we wish we were not mothers, is lying. Even if the thought only lasts a second, we all get it. There, we have something in common.

18 | Rachel from NJ

January 9th, 2009 at 5:56 pm

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I respect your views, and when i come to read your blog I realize you’re inviting me into your private somewhat censored life. I am not going to judge you from having the privilege of being enlightened from time to time. Thank you for the links, lessons, experiences, stories, esp Ash’s progress etc…
Going back to lurk mode now.

19 | Ada

January 10th, 2009 at 12:42 pm

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I’ve been reading your blog for awhile. What I like about you is that you really research your options and also listen to your heart. You have made a decision not to CIO and I think it’s a good one because you have made in in an informed way.

Different kids, different experiences, different temperaments create totally different situations and I believe that is why other mothers make different decisions. They are not worse or better, they are different. This took me awhile to understand myself. I think you, Gillian, now understand this as well.

I was actually quite impressed with your realization that perhaps your way of writing about Sundry wasn’t the best way to go about it. Not everyone can be as humble and understanding of themselves. You are a smart woman and you are quite self-aware.

I am sad for others who still belabor this topic though. It is over. Let it be. D Hardy, just take a step back and a deep breath. It seems to me you might want to take a break from this blog for awhile.

20 | *

January 16th, 2009 at 3:27 pm

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I agree with ProudMomofG. If you do not want people to judge you then you should not jude them. I do not think that she reads your blog just to pick on you but she is allowed to have a different opion then you. Also you never said that you were sorry about what you said about Linda. It was very mean to say that she does not love her children. Also the Meme that you filled out was started by LINDA!

21 | typealice

January 16th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

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You obviously have not read what I wrote about Linda- I never ONCE said I didn’t love her children. Absolutely never, no how no way.

My opinion about CIO has not changed. I wish that I’d never said anything, or said it the way that I did, but I still believe that CIO is child abuse.

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I'm Gillian, a world-traveller turned natural parent. I believe in primal parenting; breastfeeding, baby wearing, cosleeping, cloth diapering, elimination communication, vegetarianism and all things natural. I have very strong parenting views. There's nothing better in my life than my days with my kid. Also: sushi and sweet white wine, skinny jeans and black tshirts, torrents and sugar.

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